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Submitted by martin on Thu, 10/04/2008 - 18:32

Gery Lawless and Maria Duce
Submitted by NollaigO on 31 October, 2007 - 08:54.

Lawless had been a member of the IRA and then of a splinter group, and was interned for five months before December 1957, before securing his release by promising to be of “good conduct” (what in Republican circles was condemned as “signing out”).

He had belonged to a fascistic current within the Republican movement, an ultra-Catholic group called Maria Duce (Maria, the mother of Jesus; Duce, as in Mussolini, leader). Its inspirer, Fr Denis Fahey, a professor at an Irish clerical college, had published a version of the notorious Tsarist police forgery and handbook of 20th century anti-semitism, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, under the title Waters Flowing Eastward.

What are the historical sources for this claim that Lawless was a supporter of Maria Duce ?

Michael O'Riordan once told me that Lawless admitted it in his European court case. Lawless's defence was that while he had made claims to that effect at the court, he only did so to ingratiate himself with the judges whom he knew to have extreme right wing views!!
I don't know whether your nemesis is still alive or, if he is, what his current political views are but surely substantial evidence is needed to make such a damning claim?

I see that you state at the beginning of the article:

I no longer think that the side I was on in in the disputes of 1969 ...was right on everything.

Modesty comes with age, Sean, a dhuine uasal!

Sean, You state
Submitted by NollaigO on 6 November, 2007 - 12:37.

Sean,
You state above:

Lawless had been a member of the IRA and then of a splinter group, and was interned for five months before December 1957, before securing his release by promising to be of “good conduct” (what in Republican circles was condemned as “signing out”).

This is not historically accurate as the extract below from a detailed study of the Lawless case in the 1950s shows:

As an internee, there were two routes open to Lawless if he wished to be released. The first and most effective way of securing his liberty was to give the undertaking to respect the Constitution required by the government. Paradoxically, few republicans availed themselves of this option, as it was felt that ‘signing out’ was unprincipled.58
Unsurprisingly, Lawless refused to take this alternative, opting for the second route,which was to apply to the Detention Commission to have his case reviewed.

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~jouhs/michaelmas2004/maguire02.pdf

Mo naire thu. Nil an ceart agutse

PS Do you ever hear from your nemesis nowadays?

ECHR records
Submitted by martin on 11 March, 2008 - 20:39.

A footnote from Workers' Liberty 58, October 1999

"One of the Faheyites, Gerard Lawless, is considered by "experts", who aren't, to be the founder of modern Irish Trotskyism - for example in Robert Alexander's enormous book on world Trotskyism, which takes its account from the second-hand-tale-spinning adoptive Irish nationalist Rayner Lysaght.

Lawless, a member of an IRA splinter group led by Joe Crystal and Sean Geraghty, was interned for almost five months in 1957 before securing his release by promising to be "of good hehaviour". Sean MacBride, now a civil rights barrister, chose Lawless to test the legality of internment without trial in the European Court of Human Rights.

Where Alexander, following Lysaght, has Lawless become a Trotskyist while interned in the Curragh (in 1957) as a result of reading James P Cannon, the court records have him in 1960 explaining his politics in terms of the influence of Father Fahey and record that he deposited a copy of the Maria Duce paper Fiat to explain his position (ECHR Series B 1960-1 p.165 and p.167-8).

He became a sort of Trotskyist in London in the early 1960s. He was still an anti-semite in 1967-8 conducting an anti-semitic witch-hunt thinly disguised as "anti-Zionism" in the quasi-Trotskyist organisation the Irish Workers' Group.

Historic records ignored by M the younger
Submitted by NollaigO on 12 March, 2008 - 21:51.

Ni thagann ciall roimh aois

The historic research referred to above and the court proceedings both confirm that Lawless did not sign out but appealed to have his sentence reviewed. The European court case was the culmination of this action. M the Younger's version is made-up-history, a stock in trade of the modern day Irish historical revisionists like Foster, Hart, English, ....

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